Yes! In the "space between" is life abundant. The "tallied up and boiled down" are just the details, just excuses to get together and build the kingdom. Thanks for letting us dwell in your cigar smoke...
Your letter instantly made me see the Trinity. God, the word, Christ the world, the Holy Spirit the space in between. How we echo God on a daily basis.
The "space between". Makes me wonder, is their some connection between increased unhappiness in our society and the increased physical isolation of people? Particularly young people. My intuition tells me things like the meta verse can never replace sharing a conversation in real life amongst the cigar smoke and whiskey. Keep it up gentlemen, we are all loving this conversation. I am grateful for it. Thank you. God bless.
I think I love this conversation the most for selfishly, it echoes my thoughts about words and the space between. There is a concept and an art taught in Counseling, it can be summed up in the phrase, "listen beneath the words." All counselors and mental health professionals are taught that that is where the real meaning is contained. That is what the person sitting across from you is really saying, whether they realize it or not. It is not only true in the counseling room but also in life.
After Drew's piece yesterday, I had so many thoughts galloping in different directions in my mind I couldn't throw a rope around them. I couldn't explain the myriad thoughts his words evoked. With one exception, it all boiled down to the eternality of The Great I Am and the Word that was made flesh and brought His divine Light into our darkness. Thank you Spencer for saying what I couldn't.
The best way to love someone is to listen to them, be it another human or God. Shema, Hear O Israel, and fulfill the two greatest commandments of love.
"In the beginning was the WORD..." Jordan Peterson's discussion of Genesis 1 opened up to me the powerful meaning and relationship between language and perception. This Klavan conversation is covering the exact same points and is more poetic and just as profound! Thank you 😊
I am an engineer. I love data. I like tangible action. When I became a Christian, I read Stephen C. Meyer and Dr. John Lennox. I felt the wonders of science, especially our bodies, could only be created by God. But reading these essays - I feel like the words are swimming around me and give me a certain peace. It's beyond my senses. Thank you for these words with the magical spaces in between
The “space between” brought to mind music. In beautiful compositions there exists spaces of quiet between notes. In those spaces we can rest in what was heard while anticipating what is to come. If not for those spaces it would not be music, but noise. Maybe this is why I dislike contemporary music. Thanks for a delightful essay.
I've been trying to articulate this for about a decade. I only read a few of the Platonic Dialogues, so that might be why I struggled. But I remember when I was as an atheist in a discussion with other atheists trying to get to truth by means of asking if they thought the table we were sitting at actually existed. And if so what role our perceptions played on the existence of the table. I don't remember their answers, but I just remember being dissatisfied with them. Then I'd circle back around to trying to determine if the table existed, trying to establish a common objective reality in which science could be reasonably considered a valid method of discovering truth.
Yes! In the "space between" is life abundant. The "tallied up and boiled down" are just the details, just excuses to get together and build the kingdom. Thanks for letting us dwell in your cigar smoke...
Your letter instantly made me see the Trinity. God, the word, Christ the world, the Holy Spirit the space in between. How we echo God on a daily basis.
This is a most profound and beautiful truth I am making it my meditation for the rest of Lent.
The "space between". Makes me wonder, is their some connection between increased unhappiness in our society and the increased physical isolation of people? Particularly young people. My intuition tells me things like the meta verse can never replace sharing a conversation in real life amongst the cigar smoke and whiskey. Keep it up gentlemen, we are all loving this conversation. I am grateful for it. Thank you. God bless.
Lol. *there*
I think I love this conversation the most for selfishly, it echoes my thoughts about words and the space between. There is a concept and an art taught in Counseling, it can be summed up in the phrase, "listen beneath the words." All counselors and mental health professionals are taught that that is where the real meaning is contained. That is what the person sitting across from you is really saying, whether they realize it or not. It is not only true in the counseling room but also in life.
After Drew's piece yesterday, I had so many thoughts galloping in different directions in my mind I couldn't throw a rope around them. I couldn't explain the myriad thoughts his words evoked. With one exception, it all boiled down to the eternality of The Great I Am and the Word that was made flesh and brought His divine Light into our darkness. Thank you Spencer for saying what I couldn't.
The best way to love someone is to listen to them, be it another human or God. Shema, Hear O Israel, and fulfill the two greatest commandments of love.
Spencer, so well said. The stuff that makes life worth living.
This is why we're all here, this is what we were hoping for - well done both of you.
Beautifully expressed, Spencer. Metaphors are alive; they are the smoke that passes back and forth between us.
Akin to what Yoyo Ma has said: "The music is in the space between the notes"
Neil Young said something similar about the nature of music on vinyl.
The middle space is Sacrament
Outer World - word - Inner World. I love the triune nature of this. It makes so much sense. Thanks Spencer for making what seemed murky to me, clear.
"In the beginning was the WORD..." Jordan Peterson's discussion of Genesis 1 opened up to me the powerful meaning and relationship between language and perception. This Klavan conversation is covering the exact same points and is more poetic and just as profound! Thank you 😊
I am an engineer. I love data. I like tangible action. When I became a Christian, I read Stephen C. Meyer and Dr. John Lennox. I felt the wonders of science, especially our bodies, could only be created by God. But reading these essays - I feel like the words are swimming around me and give me a certain peace. It's beyond my senses. Thank you for these words with the magical spaces in between
The “space between” brought to mind music. In beautiful compositions there exists spaces of quiet between notes. In those spaces we can rest in what was heard while anticipating what is to come. If not for those spaces it would not be music, but noise. Maybe this is why I dislike contemporary music. Thanks for a delightful essay.
I've been trying to articulate this for about a decade. I only read a few of the Platonic Dialogues, so that might be why I struggled. But I remember when I was as an atheist in a discussion with other atheists trying to get to truth by means of asking if they thought the table we were sitting at actually existed. And if so what role our perceptions played on the existence of the table. I don't remember their answers, but I just remember being dissatisfied with them. Then I'd circle back around to trying to determine if the table existed, trying to establish a common objective reality in which science could be reasonably considered a valid method of discovering truth.
So, it seems, we have another trinity, or maybe a small part of the Trinity.
I wonder if Gerry Rafferty thought that, when he sang that song? Probably not.
In the micro sense there may be many little trinities. Triangles and tripods are the most rigid and stable forms.